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Post by Laura (Lori) on Nov 16, 2010 7:09:32 GMT -8
S.Korean speed-skaters to come back in December November 16, 2010 SEOUL (AFP) – South Korea, the most medalled nation in Olympic short-track speed skating, will next month return to international short-track competitions following a race-fixing scandal, officials said. The Korea Skating Union (KSU) said it would send five female and five male skaters to China for the third leg of the World Cup.Read More: news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101116/sp_wl_afp/sskateshortkor_20101116082449
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2010 14:17:40 GMT -8
The following comment is made in this article:
The national short-track team was dissolved in March following allegations that skaters had fixed the results of competitions, including their try-out races for the national team.
Once again I ask--how can they possibly keep their 2010 Olympic Medals? They are tainted from top to bottom and, IMO, don't rightfully belong to them, regardless of which nation would be next in line for the medal.
Had this been the US or Canadian teams, there would be ongoing shouts of outrage and the toilet paper companies would be crazy-mad and printing away. LOL :0
Is there anyway to find out if any of the competing nations has lodged a protest against the medals won by the Koreans's men team in Vancouver? If you know the answer and would prefer to PM me, that's fine. I'm just very curious about this.
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Post by Laura (Lori) on Nov 16, 2010 15:37:13 GMT -8
If I'm not mistaken, the race-fixing happened during the competition that determined the Korean Olympic team, not in any of the Olympic races.
Each IOC member nation can have its own process to select its Olympic team. The race-fixing was a violation of Korea's own rules for team selection. As long as there were no irregularities during the Olympic races themselves, there would be no grounds to strip them of their medals.
For example: I don't know for sure about this, but I'm guessing that back in the days of the Soviet Union, the team members sent to the Olympics in various sports were quite likely hand-picked by their federations in order to ensure the very best opportunity for medals. Fair? Maybe not to those who weren't selected - but according to the current rules, it was their option to do so.
The issue here is that the Korean selection rules call for a competition to determine some (or all) of the skaters that go to the Olympics. The skaters in that competition have the right to expect that it will be contested on a level playing field. There was evidence to the contrary, which is why they're in this mess.
Hopefully the time off has given them time to straighten it out.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2010 21:46:29 GMT -8
Lori, thanks for the response. However,.......
A Korean Olympic team that we now know is tainted, brings the question to the table about the legitimacy of their medal wins in Vancouver. IF the structure of who should win what medal when, as in quid pro quo, then how can anyone believe them IF they said this did not effect their performance in Vancouver?
Personally, I would not believe it. When the two Korean skaters fell in the A-final, they were both in medal contention. Why would either one of them make a pass that had the potential to end exactly the way it did? They know better. Those who discussed it later were really scratching their heads about that race!
Even athletes who believe they must play the party-line, have a sense of pride about their own performance, regardless. Why should ALL of their hard work go for naught (or silver vs gold in this case), in the hopes of "being selected as the chosen one" for the podium nod at the next Olympics--Sochi 2014.
I guess there is no final answer on this situation unless the IOC does investigate and finds that the team fixing for the 2010 Korean Olympic Team did not spill over into the Olympics themselves.
It took 10 years to right a wrong from a previous round of summer games. Should this take that long, will any of us still be chatting at B 'n B? LOL
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Post by sk8er on Nov 17, 2010 20:19:33 GMT -8
I don't think it changed anything. The slap on the wrist they gave the race fixers shows they care only for medals. If these guys can bring some more home so much the better. The only thing that might convince me otherwise is the permanent suspension for the coach. Was that Kim Ki Hoon?
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Post by Laura (Lori) on Nov 17, 2010 22:11:01 GMT -8
I don't think it changed anything. The slap on the wrist they gave the race fixers shows they care only for medals. If these guys can bring some more home so much the better. The only thing that might convince me otherwise is the permanent suspension for the coach. Was that Kim Ki Hoon? Sk8er, I looked upthread - the coach that was permanently banned was Jeon Jae-mok.
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Post by sk8er on Nov 18, 2010 17:10:22 GMT -8
Must have been a real egregious error as they say in the law. Thanks Lori~
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Post by Laura (Lori) on Apr 13, 2011 18:21:23 GMT -8
Guess who's baaaaaaack? ... and guess who may soon be speaking Russian? Ahn Hyun-soo finished 4th in last weekend's Korean Trials "to show local fans that he still has what it takes", and will now be moving to Russia. According to Ahn's father, he will join a club run by a local municipal government and will also train with the national team. The article also mentions Russian coach Jang Kwon-ok, aka 'Jimmy'! According to the article, though, Jang is "unaware" of Ahn's plans, and has not been notified by the Russian Federation. I've long wanted to see Ahn skate - and I don't care what color skinsuit he's wearing! If this actually happens, we won't see him this coming season - he'd have to establish Russian citizenship first. (Thanks to Tony Chung for the Trials results, and to one of his FB friends for finding the article!) ------------------------------------------ S. Korea's Olympic short track champion to continue career in RussiaYonhap News Agency / April 12, 2011 english.yonhapnews.co.kr/culturesports/2011/04/12/25/0702000000AEN20110412002500315F.HTMLTags: Ahn Hyun-soo / Jimmy Jang / Short Track Speedskating
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Post by sk8er on Apr 14, 2011 9:46:00 GMT -8
That IS exciting news. And 4th among Koreans is pretty dang good. Might this smoke Ohno out of retirement to face his most formidable rival? He never got the drop on Ahn, who to my mind was the number one skater when he was competing. But then he DID have a lot of help! He's a couple of years younger than Ohno.....very interesting. Thanks for the scoop Lori
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2011 11:24:49 GMT -8
...a little help... LOL LOL
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Post by dose on Apr 19, 2011 1:48:13 GMT -8
The 26th Korean Short Track National Championships & Qualifying Event for 2011/2012 Short Track Speed Skating National Team has ended. Through the domestic selective trial, the national team players of new season have already produced.
2011/2012 Short Track Speed Skating South Korea National Team Members Lists
Women team members: 1. Lee Eun-Byul 2. Kim Dam-Min 3. Choi Jung-Won 4. Son Soo-Min 5. Cho Ha-Ri
Men team members: 1. Kwak Yoon-Gy 2. Shin Da-Un 3. Lee Ho-Suk 4. Lee Jung-Su 5. Noh Jinkyu
*2011 world short track speed skating championships overall champions are promoted directly.
*Ahn Hyun-Soo and Lee Jung-Su, both players are the same 42 points. But Lee Jung-Su was the title of 3000m race, Ahn Hyun-Soo was the fifth in 3000m. And Ahn Hyun-Soo will go to Russia.
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Post by dose on Aug 17, 2011 0:05:20 GMT -8
"match-fixing" Korea coach probation Seoul Central District Public Prosecutors Office sentenced 46-year-old former South Korea short track speed skating three golds medalist Lee Joon-Ho. to six months imprisonment to suspended for 2 years. "match-fixing is non-economic benefits, he only opened a convenient channel for his own players and there is not direct bribes." In February last year, For some players of had not weekdays record to give the 2011 university entrance Sports Students qualifications. At the same time along with other coaches manipulated the outcome of the game in the South Korean male and female high school students short track speed skating races of March last year. Before the competitions, forced other contestants to forfeit, Or requested other contestants lose deliberately in the competition. In 1990, he became the first Korean to win the Overall World Short Track Speed Skating Championships. Lee Joon-Ho won a gold medal in 1992 Winter Olympics as a member of 5000m relay team. He also won an individual bronze medal in 1000m. Korea News: news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=102&oid=003&aid=0004018149news.kbs.co.kr/society/2011/08/12/2339648.htmlChina News: sports.cn.yahoo.com/ypen/20110815/529995.html
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Post by dose on Aug 17, 2011 0:27:28 GMT -8
Ahn Hyun-Soo decided to give up the South Korean citizenship and agree to join the Russia nationality Korea's Ahn Hyun-soo, one of the most decorated short track speed skaters of all time, is likely to represent Russia at the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia. Ahn has been looking for ways to make his comeback at the top level of the sport after spending the last few years recovering from a number of injuries. Now he may get his wish as the Russian Skating Union announced that it has applied to the Russian government to grant citizenship for Ahn so he can compete for the country. "We have already finished negotiations with Ahn to firm up all the details," it said. Ahn, who dominated short track for years, picked up five world titles from 2003 to 2007 as well as three gold medals from the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin. However, since his victorious Olympic campaign in Italy five years ago, Ahn became embroiled in an ugly national scandal involving factional divisions within the Korean short track skating community, and subsequently injured his knee in 2008. This forced him to skip the 2010 Olympics in Vancouver, and more bad news arrived last year when his team, Seongnam City, was dissolved. At the height of the crisis, he accepted an offer from Russia and left for the country this spring. "My only goal is to let people know that I'm back by competing in the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi," he said. His presence is expected to boost Russia’s already formidable performance at the Winter Olympics, as it aspires to dominate the medal table when it plays host in three years' time. english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/08/17/2011081700976.html
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Post by gdbaby77 on Nov 11, 2011 17:30:52 GMT -8
Nothing official
I read a Korean article about the status on Lee Jung Su. It will take him about 8 weeks to recover
But, the article stated that Jung Su will not be able to compete as Korean national this season. The Korean Skating Union is trying to get the substitute player approved. Ahn Hyun Soo would've replaced Jung Su if he weren't joing the Russians but it will be Seo Ee-ra (I am not sure how to spell his name) who will join the Korean nationals. He was 5th in Korean national qualifiers and he took one or two golds at the 2011 Junior Championships.
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Post by Laura (Lori) on Dec 5, 2011 17:23:48 GMT -8
This is a screen grab that I got from the ISU broadcast - World Cup 3, Nagoya, JPN (Dec 2-4, 2011): L to R: Kwak Yoon-Gy (KOR - silver); Charles Hamelin (CAN - gold); Michael Gilday (CAN - bronze)
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