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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2010 7:50:29 GMT -8
Well, looks like the skaters have found their voice and thanks to Breidy for the link:
2 SKorean Olympic medalists appeal skating ban SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — Two South Korean Olympic short-track speedskating medalists appealed their three-year bans Tuesday for alleged involvement in a race-rigging scandal.
The Korea Skating Union last week suspended Lee Jung-su and Kwak Yoon-gy from all competition until April 2013 as punishment for allegedly helping to fix races and national team tryouts in March.
Lee, 20, won gold in the men’s 1,000 and 1,500 meters at the Vancouver Olympics in February. Kwak, 21, was a silver medalist in the men’s 5,000-meter relay at Vancouver.
The KSU plans to review their appeals within 30 days, KSU official Kim Tae-wan said.
Lee and Kwak can appeal to the Korean Olympic Committee if they believe they can not accept a decision to be made by the KSU, said Kim, noting the KOC can make a final decision in the event of an appeal.
Lee and Kwak were not immediately available for comment.
The scandal surfaced when Lee failed to qualify for the national team tryouts in March for the world short track championships in Bulgaria, citing a knee injury.
The commission’s preliminary investigation last month found that Jeon Jae-mok, a national team coach, had coerced Lee to give up his spot in the championships in favor of Kwak.
Jeon was permanently banned from the sport last month for rigging results of national team tryouts to benefit selected skaters.
Lee denied all accusations of having been Jeon’s accomplice and claimed he was the victim “of deep-rooted and wrongful practices on the local sport scene,” according to the Korea Times.
Kwak has admitted to having an involvement in the alleged race fixing.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2010 7:56:39 GMT -8
quoting from above: Jeon was permanently banned from the sport last month for rigging results of national team tryouts to benefit selected skaters.
IMHO from that point forward ANY medals won by the Koreans are tainted.
Should the Korean Olympic Committee find in favor of the athletes and agree that this entire burden is on the shoulders of the coach, I call that a "foul." Right is right, wrong is wrong. Everyone must be accountable for their actions, including the athletes, PERIOD, end of sentence.
If this activity were happening in any other country and it effected a change in Olympic medal placement for the KOC/KSU athletes, they would be sure to have their opinions known and work diligently to see that the medal standings were "corrected."
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2010 8:06:07 GMT -8
and by the way...
3 cheers to the US Athletes, USOC, and USS for staying quiet on this issue. We can only assume they are watching this situation as it develops and will act, when and if necessary, on behalf of the US athletes this could effect.
This has to be a difficult situation for the US athletes who consider these Korean athletes not only their competitors, but also their friends off the ice.
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Post by sk8er on May 11, 2010 11:38:25 GMT -8
Well, you can't deny it....Lee won two Olympic Gold medals based on his skating. The issue is that there are bucketloads of Koreans capable of winning Olympic Gold Medals. It's a fight to get on the team and everyone is playing dirty there. The whole training program has been like this. Recall Hyun Soo Ahn's Dad taking a swing at KOC member int he airport after the 2006 Olympics. It taints the morals and morale of the skaters to skate in such an environment. Just play fair and let the best Korean get on the team.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2010 17:17:53 GMT -8
quoting sk8er: Just play fair and let the best Korean get on the team.
EXACTLY.......
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2010 10:48:23 GMT -8
Because we have discussed the "what-ifs", I found this article interesting about the lengthy decision process when it comes to the withdrawal of Olympic Medals. In this case--I would say the teammates are correct. But what do I know. I would like to suggest that the IOC be compelled to resolved these issues in a more timely manner. 10 Years is ridiculous. But when you consider how many official organizations have to put in their two cents--it's no da** wonder it takes 10 years. Once again--RIDCIULOUS--equal to or worse than a government committee meeting on any kind of oversight. YAWN
Switzerland —Seven U.S. sprinters have brought an appeal to the sports world’s highest court, seeking to regain the Olympic relay medals stripped from them because of doping by Marion Jones.
The Court of Arbitration for Sport heard lawyers for the women on Monday challenge the International Olympic Committee’s decision to strip the U.S. relay medals from the 2000 Sydney Games. The move came after Jones admitted using performance-enhancing drugs at the time.
Mark Levinstein, the Washington, DC-based lead attorney for the athletes, declined to comment upon arriving for the hearing, which is scheduled to take place over two days.
The Olympic legal team, led by former IOC director general Francois Carrard, also did not comment about the case.
A ruling on the appeal is not expected for several weeks—approaching 10 years after the medal races in question.
In Sydney, Jones helped Jearl Miles-Clark, Monique Hennagan, LaTasha Colander Clark and Andrea Anderson win gold in the 4x400 relay.
Chryste Gaines, Torri Edwards, Nanceen Perry and Passion Richardson were with Jones on the 4x100 bronze medal squad. All but Perry are part of the appeal to CAS, though none attended Monday.
The seven believe they should escape punishment for cheating by Jones, who was also stripped in 2007 of her gold medals in the 100 and 200 meters and bronze in the long jump.
The case is expected to sway on the weight of legal precedent offered by a previous doping case involving U.S. relay runners at the Sydney Olympics.
A CAS ruling five years ago determined that teammates of Jerome Young should not lose their 4x400 gold medals after he was served a retroactive ban from 1999-2001—meaning he was technically ineligible for the games.
Young’s relay partners—Michael Johnson, Antonio Pettigrew, Angelo Taylor, Alvin Harrison and Calvin Harrison—won their appeal to CAS after the International Association of Athletics Federations annulled their result.
CAS said then that IAAF rules in 2000 did not allow a team to be disqualified for one member’s doping. The rule was later amended, while Pettigrew handed back his medal in 2008 after he admitted using banned drugs before and after the Sydney Games.
A difference between the Young case and the appeal by Jones’s teammates is that Young did not run in the 4x400 final at Sydney, while Jones was part of the quartets that clinched the medals.
The seven women lost a preliminary judgment last December. CAS ruled then that the IOC had the right to disqualify them, even though the decision came seven years after the Sydney Olympics.
The athletes had cited an IOC rule that no Olympic decision could be challenged more than three years after the closing ceremony.
If the U.S. women lose their appeal, the IOC would then have to decide if it should reallocate the medals.
Jamaica took silver behind the U.S. in the 4x400 relay and will move up to gold if the standings are adjusted. Russia would move from bronze to silver and Nigeria from fourth to third.
In the 4x100, France stands to be upgraded from fourth to bronze.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2010 11:10:53 GMT -8
quoting from above ....
The athletes had cited an IOC rule that no Olympic decision could be challenged more than three years after the closing ceremony.
....because this just hit me. Lee's & Kwak's suspensions end April of 2013. 3 years and about 60 days AFTER the 2010 Winter Olympics Closing Ceremony.
Man--those Koreans--what a coincidence!
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2010 8:33:16 GMT -8
JUST THINK---IN TEN YEARS APOLO COULD POSSIBLY RECEIVE A GOLD MEDAL FOR THE 2010 OLYMPICS. If there were any doubters out there.....well, here you go. 05-11-2010 18:03 Skaters lodge appeal to suspension By Yi Whan-woo Korea Times intern Two Olympic medal-winning short track skaters, Lee Jung-su and Kwak Yoon-gy, lodged an appealed Monday against the three-year ban handed to them by the Korea Skating Union (KSU) for race-fixing. Vancouver Olympics double gold medalist Lee, and silver medalist Kwak, are seeking to save their skating careers appealing against last week's suspension, which will continue until April 2013. ``As they appealed the decision, the union will meet again to review the case,'' a KSU official said. According to KSU regulations, athletes under disciplinary actions have the right to request a case review within seven days from notification. The union has to go over the decision for a second review within 30 days. The KSU decision was harsher than the recommendation of a one-year ban from a special joint committee in April, consisting of the Korean Olympic Committee and the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism. The 20 year old skaters allegedly fixed the results of a series of recent races including their national team tryouts for major events including February's Winter Games and the World Championships in March.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2010 8:39:11 GMT -8
While most of the articles seemed to focus on the World Games, the Olympic Games were sitting there, like a dormant volcano waiting on the first crack that will spew forth the rest of this hot mess.
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Post by Leigul on May 13, 2010 8:56:50 GMT -8
While most of the articles seemed to focus on the World Games, the Olympic Games were sitting there, like a dormant volcano waiting on the first crack that will spew forth the rest of this hot mess. Yea...that...
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2010 7:30:57 GMT -8
Here's the latest. Raise your hand if you believe the "fix" was in before the protests were filed. A process that was proported to take a good 30 days, took what, a week? There's a serious question of international trust regarding the KSU. Not sure I can cheer for this program once it hits the ice again.
2 SKorean Olympic medalists' skating ban reduced SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — The Korea Skating Union has reduced the punishment for two South Korean Olympic medalists accused in connection with a short-track speedskating race-fixing scandal.
Skating official Park Seong-hyun says Lee Jung-su and Kwak Yoon-gy were notified Wednesday that their ban against competing was reduced from three years to one.
Lee and Kwak have seven days to appeal to the Korean Olympic Committee.
The scandal emerged when Lee failed to qualify for the 2010 worlds, citing a knee injury. An investigation found that a national team coach coerced Lee into giving up his spot for Kwak.
Lee won golds at the Vancouver Olympics in the men's 1,000 and 1,500-meter races. Kwak won silver in the men's 5,000 relay.
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Post by sk8er on May 19, 2010 8:41:20 GMT -8
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Post by mtnme on May 19, 2010 10:14:50 GMT -8
Rotten to the core. We're having a horrible experience with the Korean who showed up and offered to coach at our club. I won't go into details but oh, if only I had thought about what I know of the Korean skating program and the lack of integrity of so many of the players. Oh please, do tell! ;D ...waiting with breath that is baited... (Hey, what can I say? I don't waste my time on gossip about Brangelina, the latest teen sensations, or even on who AAO is sparkin'! LOL. Short track gossip is the best I can do. ...It's the cheap thrills in life *teehee*)
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2010 11:32:49 GMT -8
LOL Mtnme "I don't waste my time on gossip" My grandmother said gossip was about 10% truth that had been salted with 90% imagination. We've dressed it up in today's PC world and call it "speculation."
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Post by sk8er on May 19, 2010 17:43:26 GMT -8
gasp I only wish that this was just 10% true. After I posted I regretted that; it's not been a good day here. The long and short of it is this: we've been a happy club of skaters since Greg and Mary Wong and a few other people organized it 22 years ago. They and some other people have worked tirelessly and the bottom line here is, "Are We Having Fun?" We're competitive on a club level; some people go to Nationals but most of us are happy to skate local races and with the Santa Clarita folks down in Southern CA. The serious skaters, all young, go to Wilma Boostra. We do have one level III coach but we're all volunteers at whatever needs doing. The core of our club is adults although we've had a few kids and teenagers and college students float in and out. When a Korean guy dropped in and said he was here on a student visa to work on a Master's Degree in Chemistry we thought, hey all good. We had two Korean families in past years whose kids skated with us. The parents weren't skaters; the dads were professors on sabbatical to Cal. They were great and so were their kids. When he offered to coach we were like, "Yeah everyone else has a Korean coach...." Sadly, we just didn't think this out. We didn't talk to the guy to see what his real goals were and everyone's expectations. We gave it a year but it just didn't work out and the "happy" was gone. Suffice it to say that divesting ourself of the Korean coach has created real difficulties for our club, and at a time when we were overwhelmed with the largest number of new skaters in our history. I guess there have been Koreans who came over here and made a lot of money coaching but we have had enough of a challenge to pay for the ice during the post Olympic years. In so many ways amature sports has become semiprofessionalized and our little club has been a real holdout. We don't want to train like Koreans (it about killed us!), we have lives outside the rink, and we want to make shorttrack fun for everyone, no matter how they skate. Hey, I'm here! There's a race group for everyone! I'm sure we'll survive this, but there are problems now to solve that we didn't have before. The moral of the story is don't think that just because you have one thing in common with a person that they share your vision and your expectations. They may have their own agenda and you are just a stepping stone.
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