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Post by Laura (Lori) on Oct 12, 2011 17:21:14 GMT -8
@dose... as therockfairy said, it was the photo of the team in the skinsuits that they race in! ;D
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Post by dose on Oct 12, 2011 22:39:41 GMT -8
Thanks for therockfairy and Laura I thought there is a Gentlemen was wearing suits' photo at that time. I saw the photo, their new suits is quite beautiful!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2011 8:39:48 GMT -8
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Post by Laura (Lori) on Nov 17, 2011 17:35:09 GMT -8
Exactly, justsayin'... we had been wondering why he wasn't at WC 1 - he was in the most recent team photo with the new skinsuits.
I feel very bad for him - he had an excellent season last year, and I'd hate to see it taken away from him.
Yeah, I'd say this is worth an appeal - and maybe an anti-doping-rules course for the doctor!
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Post by sk8er on Nov 17, 2011 17:55:30 GMT -8
Apolo went to Korea in the middle of all the hating, was met at the airport by a big security force etc etc. It was a zoo. He went on to race and beat the Koreans on their home ice at that World Cup. Later it turned out he was so sick with the flu that he had to have fluid IVs administered in his hotel room at the end of the WC and he didn't make it to the awards banquet. He hadn't eaten in two days. I'm sorry. A "cold" and illegal medication from that just doesn't cut it with me. Stop this before it ever gets a toe hold in speedskating. Every athlete is responsible for what he knowingly puts in his mouth. If he or she has any question talk to the coach or a physician, or check the list of banned substances, before you take something.
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Post by wildfire on Nov 29, 2011 14:11:07 GMT -8
Exactly, justsayin'... we had been wondering why he wasn't at WC 1 - he was in the most recent team photo with the new skinsuits. I feel very bad for him - he had an excellent season last year, and I'd hate to see it taken away from him. Yeah, I'd say this is worth an appeal - and maybe an anti-doping-rules course for the doctor! @ Lori : Here's the latest on Thibaut... Suspension lifted for Fauconnet (Sport24.com) Published on 29/11/2011 at 18:15
The Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne provisionally lifted the doping ban imposed on the French speed skater Thibaut Fauconnet. "Looking forward to binding arbitration which is opposed to the ISU, the Court of Arbitration for Sport said that the damage being suffered by T. Fauconnet would mortgage his sporting career irreparably if the sanction should be maintained. The athlete welcomes this decision which should enable it to participate in other events of the season at the next World Cup in China, "said the French Federation of Ice Sports in a statement. via google news
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Post by Laura (Lori) on Nov 29, 2011 15:13:17 GMT -8
Oh, thank you Wildfire for this find - good news (thus far) for Thibaut!
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Post by sunshine on Dec 1, 2011 5:42:48 GMT -8
The ban may be harsh but shouldn't there be consequences to the athlete's use of a performance enhancing product on the 3 mornings of a competition (it improved his breathing) See the ISU Communication 1706 describing the case www.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853,4844-130127-131435-nav-list,00.html Cold remedies are 'notorious' for containing banned substances and any World Cup level athlete should be aware of the dangers and not pack products in their 'first aid' kit that are not vetted by the medical staff before they leave home. All of these athletes are registered with WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency) and are required to enter on-line, their location and activity for every day of the year. The requirements of WADA are an intimate part of their lives (daily accountability, having to pee in front of a stranger who shows up at your doorstep at 6 in the morning, blood testing) It is unfortunate that it is not easy to determine which sinus products are 'good' and which are 'bad'.........that responsibility resides with the athlete before they ingest or spray a substance into their body. The Court of Arbitration for Sport posts their news and cases here: www.tas-cas.org/news
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Post by Laura (Lori) on Dec 1, 2011 7:37:10 GMT -8
That was a very interesting read, Sunshine, and it does shed a more informative light on the whole thing.
As I was scanning the ISU Communications on the page, I see that there is a nearly identical case against a skater from Kazakhstan (Artyom Belousov) from last February's World Cup in SLC. Same drug, same "I didn't know" defense.
You're right. The skaters have to deal with the anti-doping rules as a part of life. One of them sat at my kitchen table for at least an hour one night listening to a tutorial about the rules. As I overheard the things he was being taught, all I could think was "wow - how does a teenager know where he's gonna be every single day during a 2-hour time window?" (maybe it's 3 hours, I can't remember now.)
With the stakes (and the likelihood of being tested) so incredibly high, it does seem inconceivable that an athlete as highly competetive as Fauconnet would leave something like a choice of drugs to guesswork.
It's also interesting that in the Communication, he admits that he "should have known" that the substance was banned, but later maintains that the intake of Rhinofluimucil was a fault he was not aware of - that he took the medication with him from France in his first aid box assuming that it would not contain any prohibited substance.
Word around the rink was that the medication was given to him by the team doctor, but the Communication indicates otherwise, stating, "there was no French team doctor whom he could have consulted."
It was also interesting to read that he should have declared his use of the medication when he took the test, and also that he could have applied for a Theraputic Use Exemption (TUE) for use of the drug.
The skeptic in me naturally wants to raise an eyebrow when someone claims ignorance of the rules as a defense - but on the other hand, my heart goes out to any athlete who gets sick before a big competition. I suppose, though, that it's a risk that all of them face equally - just like injuries. Another one for the "that's short track!" mantra.
All of this leads to a few questions...
(1) Are there readily-available and effective drugs that are NOT banned that these athletes can take on short notice for cold/flu symptoms?
(2) If an athlete wakes up the morning of a competition with a cold or the flu, is it really a practical option to apply for a TUE for the day's racing, or is that exemption only granted for chronic or long-term illnesses (with all of the typical 'red tape' involved)?
(3) If he HAD declared his use of Rhinofluimucil at the time of testing, would it have changed the consequences?
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Post by Laura (Lori) on Jan 30, 2014 16:08:30 GMT -8
Cute!
Fooling Around With the Short Track French Team
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