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Post by Laura (Lori) on Jun 21, 2009 22:17:23 GMT -8
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Post by Laura (Lori) on Aug 2, 2009 23:20:02 GMT -8
Hey, SLOW DOWN! Let's not have everyone bombard the board all at one time, we might crash the forum...
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Post by Guest One on Aug 3, 2009 16:55:34 GMT -8
Great forum! I was wondering if anyone has news whether or not the Trials in Sept. will be broadcast. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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Post by Laura (Lori) on Aug 3, 2009 17:21:14 GMT -8
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Post by Laura (Lori) on Aug 4, 2009 9:49:18 GMT -8
Guest One - Check the Olympic Trials thread. I just posted info there about a USOEC link that will be posting results immediately following each event. (Not live coverage, but it's the best we have so far!)
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Post by Guest One on Aug 4, 2009 11:31:48 GMT -8
Thank You! Updates will be welcomed... still keeping fingers crossed there will be live coverage. I will be bitting my nails for Allison and Apolo.
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Post by Guest One on Aug 4, 2009 12:44:37 GMT -8
I received this today:
Unfortunately, in a decision made by the USOC and NBC, the ST Olympic Trials will not be broadcast or webcast.
Peri Kinder PR/Media US Speedskating P: 801-417-5367 F: 801-417-5361
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Post by Laura (Lori) on Aug 4, 2009 16:05:20 GMT -8
I received this today: Unfortunately, in a decision made by the USOC and NBC, the ST Olympic Trials will not be broadcast or webcast. Peri Kinder PR/Media US Speedskating P: 801-417-5367 F: 801-417-5361 What a bummer. Oh, well, I guess we'd better be sure to bookmark that USOEC link - thank you for the info!
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Post by Joyce on Aug 6, 2009 13:07:02 GMT -8
REPORT FROM AN OZER
Met my friend, a sports producer. Does not think that the USOC's plans for an Olympic channel will fly as the IOC has complete control over all Olympic footage, archival and otherwise. The USOC cannot supercede the IOC on these issues. He ( a producer on previous Winter Olympics ) feels that the IOC is completely self-serving and $$$ driven - very little concern for athletes or fans. Just his opinion.
Actually my main topic was my lament to him concerning lack of access to previous Olympic Games, excluding some limited viewing of YouTube entries. With my newly cultivated knowledge of SST and more experienced "eye'' for technique and strategy, I would love to revisit SLC and Torino, especially the SST Heats and Preliminaries, as would many other fans. He suggested that I go to a little known museum in NYC ( as I live in Manhattan, this would not be an unreasonable journey) - the Paley Center for the Media. Located on West 52nd Street, right next to Blackrock ( CBS Headquarters), it is named after William Paley who ran CBS back in its heyday ( the Edward R.Murrow, Walter Cronkite days ). It is a great place and quite a classy operation. They have seminars, screenings and a Library of 140,000 programs - including a Sports section. They are used by many Sport federations for archival research for Sports Awards, Emmy nominations, etc.
Before I get anyone too excited - I did fail in my Quest. The employees/ volunteers are knowledgeable, gracious and helpful beyond belief. The first step is to locate your desired subjects on their computers - a beautiful, spacious room with desks and chairs and about 2 dozen computers. I had a great ass't who was as shocked as I was when KEY words such as Winter Olympics, SLC 2002, Torino 2006, SST, Speedskating, Apolo Ohno, Shani Davis, Bode Miller, etc - all showed NO MATERIAL AVAILABLE. The Supervisor was consulted and they "searched" their Tape Collection. Only came up with some footage from Olympics 1939 and Eric Heidon's appearance on Johnny Carson after Lake Placid. Conclusion - the IOC has such a stranglehold over Olympic material, that I would have more success at access to the Dead Sea Scrolls or the private information of citizens through the Freedom of Information Act.
This wonderful museum has demonstrated extraordinary stewardship over a vast amount of material, but cannot have 5 minutes of Olympic footage from any Game. My disappointment is minor as compared to former athletes and their families who have no point of reference in which to view one of the greatest moments in their lives. Though some families may have set their VCR's in a timely manner - how many have been able to preserve their tapes?
my ass'ts were as frustrated as I. I did KEY in Michelle Kwan and Eric Heiden again. ABC Wide World of Sports threw them a bone - they had the 1997 "Worlds" with Michelle and Tara and a great 23 minute documentary on Heidon under a program "Sportcentury's 50 Greatest Athletes". After submitting my 2 requests, I was taken to another room with viewing cubicles complete with head sets and a control panel. The room was quiet, cool, dark ( really nice ) - almost church-like. Everyone there seemed transported to their own little worlds. I thoroughly enjoyed my 2 requests - quite illuminating. Heidon's quads look larger than Apolo's, Apolo's dryland technique exceeds Heidon's. There are so many character similiarites - almost spooky..........
I plan to go again - will try not to be as subject specific. For those interested - you can view every Superbowl Game, every World Series, every major Sport - but no Olympics. Is it any wonder that so many Olympians are so easily forgotten.
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Post by Laura (Lori) on Aug 6, 2009 13:54:50 GMT -8
Sorry that your visit to the Paley Center wasn't the 'goldmine' that you had hoped. Your final comment is so true - and so sad. All the more reason to hope that the USOC can pull this off! ST (and Olympics) fans have recently been singing the praises of NBC Universal for their fledgling efforts in this area - it's currently the best place to find coverage of Olympic sports in non-Olympic years. I'm wondering if the USOC plan will trump their efforts, i.e., 'anything you can do I can do better'(?)... But hey, a little healthy competition can only serve to benefit Olympic fans!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2009 19:42:52 GMT -8
I really enjoyed the "visit to the Paley center". Thanks Joyce/guest for the inside look. Yes, we can get constant replays of the latest Gosselin problem or what's up with the most recent Bachelorette, but no Olympic footage.
So, exactly what does IOC do with all of that footage? Is it like the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark? After the Closing Ceremonies are over we see one little maintenance guy rolling a big wooden crate labeled "Olympics 2010" into an obscure corner of some obsucre building, never to be seen again.
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Post by Laura (Lori) on Aug 6, 2009 20:43:03 GMT -8
I really enjoyed the "visit to the Paley center". Thanks Joyce/guest for the inside look. Yes, we can get constant replays of the latest Gosselin problem or what's up with the most recent Bachelorette, but no Olympic footage. So, exactly what does IOC do with all of that footage? Is it like the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark? After the Closing Ceremonies are over we see one little maintenance guy rolling a big wooden crate labeled "Olympics 2010" into an obscure corner of some obsucre building, never to be seen again. Excellent analogy, Gasp - truth may be stranger than fiction...
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Post by Joyce on Aug 7, 2009 4:49:47 GMT -8
I will ask my friend if he knows the status of the Olympic films. ABC had the contractual television rights with the IOC up until Nagano 1998 I believe, and from then to 2016 - NBC. I have heard that ESPN will be interested in the bids after that.
I would guess that ABC and NBC have the "physical" property in their respective warehouses, but the IOC has ultimate control over any dissemination. I recall a TV interview with Apolo where a reporter sarcastically stated " I think we have one still shot of you at the Olympics, that's all NBC would give us!" I doubt whether any preservation is ongoing, though techniques and materials have improved, I am sure prior to a certain year, damage is occurring. I will have to ask what the shelf life is for the 2002/2006 tapes as they gather dust.
I would surmise that there is ongoing discussion among IOC officials on how best to market and capitalize this material - but as in all things dominated by greed and so many countries involved - nothing constructive.
The solution Steve and I came up with is to produce and edit each individual Olympic sport onto a DVD. Sales would be world-wide with each countries' profits going to their respective sports federations. Sales of SST DVDs in the US would benefit the US SST athletes, and so on. The problem is that the IOC fails to comprehend that the athletes are the "Players" in this production and without them the IOC would not exist. Somewhere along the history and politics of the Olympics, a role reversal was not only engineered but allowed to proliferate.
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Post by Joyce on Aug 7, 2009 5:49:54 GMT -8
BTW - for the Westcoasters, there is a duplicate Paley Center located in BEVERLY HILLS. Probably supported by a lot of socially conscious Hollywood people - the NYC screening room is the "Steven Spielberg Screening Room".
465 North Beverly Hill Drive Beverly Hills. Ca 90210
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Post by bubblebuttsbabe on Aug 8, 2009 16:32:46 GMT -8
BTW - for the Westcoasters, there is a duplicate Paley Center located in BEVERLY HILLS. Probably supported by a lot of socially conscious Hollywood people - the NYC screening room is the "Steven Spielberg Screening Room". 465 North Beverly Hill Drive Beverly Hills. Ca 90210 I call a field trip for us So-Cal-ers!! :]
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